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Ten important Chinese Standards in Appreciating Clivias
« on: February 06, 2008, 03:42:25 »
I have had translated the ten important standards which we judge the quality of Pure Chinese clivias on my webpage.
 Because of poor English, there are mistakes. Here I try to make it more undestandable, hope you can get the main meaning. Any help to perfect it will be much appreciated.

Ten Standards in Appreciating Chinese Clivias


 

Now, in China, we appreciate the leaves more than flowers. Therefore, the best Chinese clivias are those of which  leaves are very beautiful and accord with <Ten Standards in Appreciating Clivia in China>. These standards include:

1.the ratio between the leavesí length and width(3:1 will be the best),

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2. shape of the leafís tips(round, like a cup edge),

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3.color of the leaf( yellowish will be the best),

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4.veins(very regular and protuberant,form pane-like pits on the leaf surface )

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5.brightness(how glossy, bright like rubbed with oil will be the best ) ,

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6.how exquisite the leaf surface is(i.e. how slippery, the more will be better).

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7.rigidity(hard and erective(upward like sword) will be good),

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8.thickness of leaf(no less than 1.6mm will be the best),

 

9.shape of the base(stem). The plant which has genes of Monk or Roundtip often has good base(stem) shape.

    good shaped base(stem): 

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10.shape of the plant. fan-like shape will be the best.

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        The best Chinese clivia should accord with all standards listed above, so a very good one is  very very rare, so they are very very expensive, the best clivia will reach a price at about US$10000 and even more. Often a very good Chinese clivia breeder only have  few very good Chinese clivias among thousands of plants in his plantation. When you are aware these standards , it will not be a difficult thing for you to judge good ones from bad ones.
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Re: Ten important Chinese Standards in Appreciating Clivias
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2008, 07:32:37 »
Thank you very much for the standards .

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Re: Ten important Chinese Standards in Appreciating Clivias
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2008, 07:44:32 »
a good article, and in china people would like  to enjoying the clivias by the standard

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Re: Ten important Chinese Standards in Appreciating Clivias
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2008, 07:57:15 »
Cliviagarden,
Thank you very much for your efforts (Xie Xie Ni!!!!).
Can you also give us the score sheet to show how much each standard counts out of 100 points?
I have discussed with Gideon and others and we hope to get a special division of this forum where we can keep and discuss standards, classes and judging criteria in the near future.
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Re: Ten important Chinese Standards in Appreciating Clivias
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2008, 08:27:35 »
Thank you for the standard list im sure that there are a high number of excelent clivia in china
what is the average price for a good chinese clivia like engineer?
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Re: Ten important Chinese Standards in Appreciating Clivias
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2008, 08:39:59 »
the price of the clivia depends on its quality.
and what about in your country?

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Re: Ten important Chinese Standards in Appreciating Clivias
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2008, 08:49:16 »
Pangchunquan,
Yes. Price depends on quality as well as how rare a plant is. If demand is high and supply is low, price is high. If supply is high and demand is low, price is low.
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Re: Ten important Chinese Standards in Appreciating Clivias
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2008, 09:24:12 »
Very interesting, thank you
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Re: Ten important Chinese Standards in Appreciating Clivias
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2008, 10:50:25 »
Dries and others

I would  like to support your proposal to start a new section on show/plant standards. I think that the subject is long overdue to be understood and debated.
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Re: Ten important Chinese Standards in Appreciating Clivias
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2008, 13:57:30 »
ok , i think we can show the ten standards for every one who are interested in it

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Re: Ten important Chinese Standards in Appreciating Clivias
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2008, 13:59:44 »
Thank you all.

The ten main standards come up with points as below:
1. 1~10 Points
2. 1~8 Points
3. 1~11 Points
4. 1~11 Points
5. 1~11 Points (absolutely necessarily)
6.  1~11 Points (absolutely necessarily)
7. 1~11 Points (absolutely necessarily)
8. 1~11 Points (absolutely necessarily)
9. 1~8 Points
10.1~8 Points
Total of above:100 Points
Classes:
1)、90 Points or above. nonsuch quality;
2)、80~89 Points. collector's quality;
3)、70~79 Points. very fine quality;
4)、60~69 Points. fine quality;
5)、50~59 Points. good quality;
6)、40~49 Points. Common Quality;
7)、40 Points or less. low-end quality。
If 2 plants obtain the same score. There are 2 accessorial standards:
1. Flowers are big and vivid colored, a suitable scape of height. Berries with luster. 1-6 Points.
2. Without damnification, without plant diseases and insect pests, etc. 4 Points.

From above, you will find us Chinese clivia people regard the standards on leaves as much more important contents than the flowers and berries.

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Re: Ten important Chinese Standards in Appreciating Clivias
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2008, 14:06:21 »
Do I understand the score card coreect? Is the flower only scored when 2 plant get the same score? In other words if one plant has more points than another the flower count for no points and cannot put theplant in a better position?
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Re: Ten important Chinese Standards in Appreciating Clivias
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2008, 14:21:28 »
Thank you for the standard list im sure that there are a high number of excelent clivia in china
what is the average price for a good chinese clivia like engineer?
Hello Martin: What Mr. Pang Chunquan and Dries said is right. But I would like to tell you is that, there is almost no pure Engineer in our clivia world. After years of crosses between early types, such as Engineer, Victory, Monk, etc. there are many new types are created, but at the same time, the very old types, for example, Engineer, etc, is very very rare. Meanwhile, these old types are somewhat useless to present breeding plans.
What I suggest  is some new types which have strong genes of Engineer as the Engineer genes put up high glossy, yellowish colored leaves, also will appear the characteristics of Paintedface. Therefore, Engineer-shortleaf will be very good choice, which is a new type. But there are also various price classes according to various quality plants. I do not suggest you buy very high priced plants, but to begin with common or better plants. Such plants with creditable quality will be of a price from 30USD to 100USD for 2 year old ones. If you think you can do good with much more high quality plants, you can then consider high quality plants. Those plants will be of a price of several hundreds of USD to more than 1500USD.
Just for your referrence.
Yang. From China.
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Re: Ten important Chinese Standards in Appreciating Clivias
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2008, 14:25:50 »
Do I understand the score card coreect? Is the flower only scored when 2 plant get the same score? In other words if one plant has more points than another the flower count for no points and cannot put theplant in a better position?
Correct, Dries. That means, generally, the 2 accessorial standards will not be used if the 2 or more best plants do not happen to obtain the same score.
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Re: Ten important Chinese Standards in Appreciating Clivias
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2008, 16:36:08 »
Cliviagarden, Pangchunquan, etc,

Many thanks for your input on an interesting topic.
As you know, it is very interesting and very different to what we are used to.

Can we (among other conclusions we make) categorically presume that seed sales from plants scored as per your scorecard will always be classified in advertisement the same way as the plant which the berries were picked from?

Example:
The advertisement may read "Good Quality" or "High Quality" of a particular range of seed.

Does this automatically mean that these "Good Quality" seeds did in fact come from a plant which was in fact scored according to the ten standards you mention above?  Or,

Could it be that some seeds would be marked "Good" or "High" quality but that the berries did not come from a plant particularly and specifically scored in the "standard" manner you just explained?

(You should give more points to the florals some day...they are fun too?) :laugh:

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