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Offline Martin

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Hope this helps
« on: September 05, 2016, 10:46:00 »
   Group One   Group Two   Group Three   Ungrouped      
                  
   Yellows               
                  
   Mare's Yellow   Centani/Qntani Yellow   Celtis Kloof Yellow   Mvuma Yellow      
   Howick Yellow   Dwesa Yellow   Potterill Blush Yellow   Ndwedwe Alpha Thurston      
   Blinkwater Yellow   Bashee Yellow   Greendale Yellow   Ndwedwe Beta Thurston      
   Mpumulo Yellow   Transkei Yellow   Peacevale Yellow   Oribi Gorge Yellow      
   King Hamelin Yellow   Smith's Yellow      Byrne Valley Yellow      
   Arturo's Yellow   Tsolo Yellow      Crookes Yellow      
   San Marcos Yellow   Floradale Yellow      Qora Yellow      
   Kirstenbisch Yellow   Cynthia's Best            
   Eshowe Yellow   Port St John's Yellow            
   Saunders Yellow   Hirao Green            
   Watkins Yellow   Yellow Daruma G2            
   Karkloof Yellow   TK Yellow GT            
   Jim Holmes Yellow   Cynthia's Dream            
   Whyte Yellow   Vic Daniels Yellow G2            
   Noyce's Yellow   Auriel Batten Yellow            
   Vico or Smithers Yellow   Butter Yellow ?            
   Vico Gold   Pat's Gold            
   Kewensis Yellow   Golden Fleece            
   GTS Delta Cream   TK Miniature Yellow            
   Solomone Yellow   TK Short BL Yellow            
   Yellow Daruma G1   Natal Yellow            
   Sir John Thouron Yellow   Giddy Yellow            
   Conway's 'Megan'   Gibelo Yellow            
   Vic Daniels Yellow G1   Holl's Yellow            
   Pen Henry Yellow   Swellendam Yellow            
   Lemon Chiffon   Stella Parish Yellow            
   Lemon Ice               
   Solomone Cream               
   Holmes Yellow               
   Col Pitman Yellow               
   Walters Yellow               
   Morris Yellow               
   Humbolt Yellow               
   Hirao Yellow               
                  
   Peaches               
                  
   Chubb Peach   Sunrise Sunset      Ndwedwe Gamma Peach      
   Reeds/Gail's Peach   Tessa      Naude's Peach      
   Lotter's Peach   Cransley Peach      Anna Meyer's Peach      
   De Villiers Variegated Peach         Victorian Peach      
   Vico Peach         European Peach      
            Cameron Peach      
            Tipperary Peach      
                  
   Interspecifics               
                  
   Lime Light   Charl's Green            
                  
   Pendulous species               
                  
   Yellow Caulescens               
                  
1   Dwesa Yellow, Bashee Yellow, Transkei Yellow, Smith's Yellow, Tsolo Yellow, Floradale Yellow are the same plant               
2   Natal Yellow, Giddy Yellow, Fred Gibello Yellow, Jardine Yellow,Swellendam Yellow, Holl's Yellow and Stella Parish Yellow are the same plant               
                  
3   Cynthia's Dream' is a cross made by Fred van Niekerk using Natal Yellow crossed with a clone of Cynthia's Best               
4   Group 3. There are 4 plants collected in the greater Pietermaritzburg area in the early 1960`s namely; Potterill Blush Yellow, Greendale yellow, Peacevale yellow and Celtiskloof yellow. All of these plants are compatable with one another and produce yellow[or slightly blushed] flowering seedlings when crossed together. These plants have for sake of a better name been called Group 3 yellows in my breeding program . They all flower yellow with a very slight pink blush or tiny speckling on the reverse of the flower, they produce seed pods which ripen red and all seedlings are pigmented but still flower yellow. - Sean Chubb                
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
5   Mvuma Yellow. Another habitat plant which seems to be in her own group is Mvuma Yellow. Fortunately she is semi fertile when selfed and so we are growing on unpigmented seedlings from the selfing. Hopefully these will then be crossed back to the original clone to produce more yellows with the same genetic makeup as Mvuma Yellow. - Sean Chubb                
                  
                  
6   Butter Yellow'. The very rare 'Butter'(said to originate in the KZN habitat) was also found to be Group 2 and is the breeding source of the deep yellow Group 2 hybrids such a 'Pat's Gold' and 'Golden Fleece'               
                  
                  
   Group compatibility - the following plants are said to be compatible with Group Two and each other               
                  
      Gloria            
      Four Marys            
      Hattori Blush            
      Mopi Hurt            
      Appleblossom            
                  
   Other compatibility with each other               
                  
   Andrew Gibson         European Peach      
   Naude's Peach         Tipperary Peach      
   777         Cameron Peach      
   Msubo Wow         Wittig Pink      
   Msubo Nguni               
   Fairytale               
   Splash               
   Meltzers Picotee               
   Pietersen Blushes               
   Ruby Stewart               
   Royal Gala               
   Rumplestilskin               
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Re: Hope this helps
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2016, 11:42:10 »
Martin, the columns don't show in my browser (I tried IE and Pale Moon).
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Re: Hope this helps
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2016, 00:32:55 »
Invaluable information!   

I have the same problem as WillemFourie (using Firefox)
I could probably work it out but would hate to get a plant name in the wrong column and pass on wrong information.
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Re: Hope this helps
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2016, 15:06:20 »
Clivia enthusiasts here in USA have been test crossing Gloria with other clivias for several years now.  Here are some of the results:

Gloria and Appleblossom are not 100% compatible.  Some results will have the flower color of both parents BUT some will be oranges.

Gloria X Hirao (Group 2 Yellow) resulted in an orange flower.
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Re: Hope this helps
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2016, 09:09:32 »
This has been posted on the Forum several times in the past:

Clivia Groupings

Yellow


Group 1 Yellows:

Mare's or Howick Yellow
Blinkwater Yellow
Mpumulo Yellow
King Hamelin Yellow
Arturo's Yellow
San Marcos Yellow
Kirstenbosh Yellow
Eshowe or Saunders Yellow
Watkins Yellow
Karkloof Yellow
Jim Holmes Yellow
Whyte Yellow
Noyce's Yellow
Vico or Smither's Yellow
Vico Gold
Kewensis strain yellows
'GTS Delta Cream'
Solomone Yellow
Yellow Daruma G1
Sir John Thouron
Conway's 'Megan'
Vic Daniels Yellow G1
Pen Henry Yellow
Lemon Chiffon
Lemon Ice
Solomone Cream
Holmes Yellows
Col Pitman
Walters Yellow
Morris Yellow
Humbolt   Group 2 Yellows:

Centani Yellow
Dwesa Yellow1
Bashee Yellow
Transkei Yellow
Smith's Yellow
Tsolo Yellow
Floradale Yellow
Natal Yellow2
Giddy Yellow
Gibelo Yellow
Holl's Yellow
Swellendam Yellow
Stella Parish Yellow
Cynthia's Best
Port St John's Yellow
Hirao Green
Yellow Daruma G2
TK Yellow GT
'Cynthia's Dream'3
Vic Daniels Yellow G2
'Auriel Batten Yellow'
'Butter Yellow'7
'Pat's Gold'
'Golden Fleece'
TK Miniature Yellow
TK short BL Yellow   Group 3 Yellows:

Celtis Kloof Yellow4
Potterill Blush Yellow
Greendale yellow
Peacevale yellow   Unknown Yellows:

Mvuma Yellow5
Ndwedwe Alpha Thurston6
Ndwedwe Beta Thurston
Oribi Gorge Yellow
Byrne Valley Yellow
Crookes Yellow.
Qora Yellow


Peaches and Pastels


Group 1

Chubb Peach
Reeds/Gail's Peach
Lotter's Peach
de Villiers Variegated Peach
Victorian Peach   Group 2

'Sunrise Sunset'
'Tessa'
Victorian Peach
Cameron Peach
Tipperary Peach

Unknown Peaches

Ndwedwe Gamma Peach
Naude Peach
Anna Meyer Peach



Pendulous Species


Group 1:   Group 2:   Unknown:




Interspecifics


Group 1:
Limelight   Group 2:
Charlsgreen   Unknown:

Group Compatibility

Appleblossom Huh



Note:

1 Dwesa Yellow, Bashee Yellow, Transkei Yellow, Smith's Yellow, Tsolo Yellow, Floradale Yellow are the same plant
2 Natal Yellow, Giddy Yellow, Fred Gibello Yellow, Jardine Yellow,Swellendam Yellow, Holl's Yellow and Stella Parish Yellow are the same plant
3 'Cynthia's Dream' is a cross made by Fred van Niekerk using Natal Yellow crossed with a clone of Cynthia's Best
4 Group 3. There are 4 plants collected in the greater Pietermaritzburg area in the early 1960`s namely; Potterill Blush Yellow, Greendale yellow, Peacevale yellow and Celtiskloof yellow. All of these plants are compatable with one another and produce yellow[or slightly blushed] flowering seedlings when crossed together. These plants have for sake of a better name been called Group 3 yellows in my breeding program . They all flower yellow with a very slight pink blush or tiny speckling on the reverse of the flower, they produce seed pods which ripen red and all seedlings are pigmented but still flower yellow. - Sean Chubb
5 Mvuma Yellow. Another habitat plant which seems to be in her own group is Mvuma Yellow. Fortunately she is semi fertile when selfed and so we are growing on unpigmented seedlings from the selfing. Hopefully these will then be crossed back to the original clone to produce more yellows with the same genetic makeup as Mvuma Yellow. - Sean Chubb
6 Ndwedwe Alpha Thurston a habitat collected plant has been found not to be compatible, does not produce yellow seedlings with any other Yellow except her own seedlings so we have classified her in a group known as Alpha Group. - Sean Chubb
More on this can be seen at http://www.cliviaforum.co.za/forum/index.php?topic=11053.msg79585#msg79585
7 'Butter Yellow'. The very rare 'Butter'(said to originate in the KZN habitat) was also found to be Group 2 and is the breeding source of the deep yellow Group 2 hybrids such a 'Pat's Gold' and 'Golden Fleece'.
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