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Offline Piet Theron

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Cl Nobilis x Cl Mirabilis
« on: July 02, 2016, 16:20:17 »
Flowering now is this cross between Nobilis and Mirabilis. This is from the breeding of Charl Malan, flower count  26. Please note the Dark red colour of the stem that always seems to be carried over. In a 19cm pot it is surprisingly compact. The median stripe found in Nobilis and Mirabilis is also present. The thick root above ground also shows the Mirabilis influence. In contrast, the crosses made with Caulescens and Mirabilis always seem to produce very large plants. This will of course be influenced by the initial parents.
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Re: Cl Nobilis x Cl Mirabilis
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2016, 17:10:08 »
Goeie inligting . Dankie dr Piet

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Re: Cl Nobilis x Cl Mirabilis
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2016, 20:20:37 »
Thanks for the info Dr Piet what are you going to cross it with?
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Re: Cl Nobilis x Cl Mirabilis
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2016, 08:46:25 »
Well done Piet, I think you must now cross it with a gardenii x caulescens and then you can call the babies 'Four Seasons".
Lovely plant, I like the smaler size. Thanks for sharing with us.

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Re: Cl Nobilis x Cl Mirabilis
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2016, 16:45:45 »
Thank you Chris for your response
Martin maybe this gives half an answer
Thinking aloud or breeding aloud
Some thoughts on breeding with the above and please differ or voice your opinion
As said the Caulescens x Mirabilis crosses that I have seen all seem to be large vigorous plants, however Charl Malan has a good variety of Nobilis and he may have used a more compact version.
In this case the compact aspect could be utilised towards breeding compact interspecifics.
One could use Compact Gr1 Yellow. Compact Gr2 Yellow or Compact any other colour as pollen or seed parent. It depends on what is available to you


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Re: Cl Nobilis x Cl Mirabilis
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2016, 16:53:41 »
Hello Chris Thank you for the suggestion of pollination. To my mind there is already a plant called Four Seasons
However I could use Pollen of the plant seen below. This is (Caulescens x Chubbs Peach) X (Gardenii x Yellow Miniata) Then I may even call it Five Seasons
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Re: Cl Nobilis x Cl Mirabilis
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2016, 23:25:06 »
Wow Piet. This is pretty. Like little balerinas.

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Re: Cl Nobilis x Cl Mirabilis
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2016, 00:28:01 »
Amazing effort flowering it. How old would the plant be?

If it was mine I would polllinate it with a compact group 1 yellow :)

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Re: Cl Nobilis x Cl Mirabilis
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2016, 09:24:00 »
Now this last one is special Piet , still pendulous but with flaring flowers .
I have not seen many but look forward to seeing many more in years to come .
Thanks for sharing .
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Re: Cl Nobilis x Cl Mirabilis
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2016, 10:28:48 »
I agree, Lionel, it is very special. I hope members will share more of these with us. Many interspecifics look like  bad miniatas or bad species, but this one' s shape is what we all hope for..
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Re: Cl Nobilis x Cl Mirabilis
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2016, 15:32:58 »
What a special flower, it just takes my breath away. I just love the way it flares on the bottom and hangs down. Just lovely

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